Are you ready for it?ĮISENBERG: You have to say that. That's the event, you know?ĭARNIELLE: Yeah, I mean, it's a corny way of putting it, but it's true.ĮISENBERG: Well, I hope that you're going to enjoy your ASK ME ANOTHER challenge.
And there's a sense in which the thing you make, the form it takes, is really only the after effect of the creative thing you did, whether it's a song or a book or, you know, a conversation you have at dinner, you know? It's all that's - the creative thing is what happened in the process, not the relic of it. And I respect it because, like, zealots always attract me, you know?ĭARNIELLE: Like, people who, like, I only make this kind of music. I mean 'cause there's other stuff I do that isn't, you know - I do creative stuff all day long, you know, and so I - it would be weird for me to go, well, this is the only thing I do. Would you go, all right, I'm just going to take the next few years and only write or.ĭARNIELLE: I mean, I can't imagine having to choose. If you had to choose - I mean, I wouldn't want you to choose, but these things take a huge amount of time. And it's also really dark and gory, and I like that stuff, so.ĮISENBERG: "Wolf In White Van," and then you're also doing more albums. And, to me, that's audible in what they do. They're incredible musicians, and they do it out of real love of their stuff. Any of these guys can play rings around me. And it takes considerably greater musical expertise than I'm ever going to have. And it's a mode of self-expression that is put out there, you know, at risk of ridicule and with the near-certainty of no monetary reward at all, right?ĭARNIELLE: It costs a lot of money to make a death metal album.
But death metal really does come from the heart in that it comes from inside somebody. Well, it has to be emotional in a certain way. And.ĭARNIELLE: But beyond that, it's like - it's creative expression that can genuinely say that it's not interested in what the world at large thinks of it, right? It's a creative expression that really, in a sense - when we say something comes from the heart, we have all these romantic associations. It's, like, really just awesome and rewarding and painful and great. It's really, you know, if you get in the pit at a death metal show, it's the best. The aggression, you know, is really great. But you're also a death metal fan?ĮISENBERG: What attracts you to listening to it?ĭARNIELLE: There's two things. That's.ĭARNIELLE: Yeah, he - no, he just finds it amusing (laughter).ĮISENBERG: That's amazing. So.ĮISENBERG: That is - that's a scary 3-year-old you're raising, by the way. But to relax, I mean, lately I'm listening to vocal music, like the Anonymous 4, and baroque stuff - a record that my 3-year-old likes to say, la perla barroca. I mean, I do listen to some singer-songwriters. And when you're hanging out, you're not listening to singer-songwriter music, per se, to relax.ĭARNIELLE: No, no. They tell stories, some autobiographical, some fictional. You know him from his band, The Mountain Goats, and he's got a new novel out, "Wolf In White Van" - John Darnielle.ĮISENBERG: Now, if for whatever reason, you've never listened to The Mountain Goats, I would describe your music as a melodic, soulful. And we are coming to you live from the Carolina Theatre in Durham, North Carolina.ĮISENBERG: Now, please welcome our very important puzzler. I'm Ophira Eisenberg, and with me is our one-man house band, Jonathan Coulton, and our puzzle guru, Art Chung. Welcome back to ASK ME ANOTHER, NPR and WNYC's hour of trivia, puzzles and word games.
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